User talk:Elinruby

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Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Elinruby!

-- 22:07, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, Elinruby!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

CategorizationBot (talk) 11:08, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:MozillaStopCensorshipDoodle.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

ContinueWithCaution (talk) 11:25, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I love the image, I just don't believe it is fully free. Sorry, ContinueWithCaution (talk) 11:27, 17 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Elinruby. Thanks for improving File:Photograph of Sioux Indian Long Fox-To-Can-Has-Ka - NARA - 519037.tif. I only just noticed when my bot overwrote it. Nothing personal! :-)

In general, I think it is accepted practice to upload modifications under a new name. There is a notice to that effect to the template for each page. While your change may have been an improvement, and might normally be acceptable, I think that in the case of these National Archives images, the image description represents this image as an exact copy of the image in the National Archives' catalog, so it is quite confusing (and possibly misleading) to see that they are not identical. We should have at least one image that faithfully represents NARA's document, as well as any modifications listed with the "Other versions=" template parameter. Hopefully this makes sense. Could you please upload your edited version of that image, and any others, under a new name, rather than overwriting the files? Again, thanks! Dominic (talk) 18:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry for any confusion. You can always download previous versions of images by going to the "File history" section on the image page. When I said I overwrote it, I just meant that a new version was uploaded with the same name, so your edit is no longer the displayed version. I see now that you've had the right idea all along about uploading with new names, you've just been doing it slightly wrong. :-) When you use the "Upload a new version of this file" link, you are actually uploading the new version over the current one, not uploading it with a new name. You should actually use the "upload file" button in the sidebar like other uploads, and you can just copy and paste the wikitext from the original version (this works best if you select the "basic" upload form linked at the bottom of Commons:Upload). Let me know if you have any more questions, and thanks for all your work! Dominic (talk) 13:11, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Metlakatla

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Hi Elin - You created Category:Metlakahtla back in September, and I added some categories. I have grown less comfortable with the category name. Metlakatla is the modern spelling for both the Alaska and BC locations. There will be a lot of images, requiring subcategories, and I think all should use the modern spelling. Would you agree? Can you identify anyone else who might have an opinion? or should we do a full CFD? Thanks. Dankarl (talk) 04:26, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I made the category because I realized that there were hundreds of images and did not want to dump them all into "Alaska in the 19th century". I realized somewhat later than there were two locations and they were (I think)not adjoining. On the other hand I was not sure about spelling or how to distinguish the two....bottom line, I am only involved in this because while I was ill over the summer I spent some time sorting National Archives material. I know nothing at all about the area, the people, or the history. As far as *I* am concerned, if you can improve on the situation, that would be wonderful. It also occurred to me that there was enough material there for a multimedia history project or two, not to mention family histories for the entire town, it looked like. I am pretty sure I posted on the town's Wikipedia discussion page that all these images existed...and did not get an answer back. So perhaps Metlakahtla has not yet discovered Wikipedia.
Please feel free to proceed as you think best. I would suggest making sure that I did make the post I mentioned, and considering whether a university or a tribe might be interested. Maybe it should be associated with some project about Alaska? These are just suggestions, though. Consider me someone who came in, did a little sorting, fixed a few scratches, and went poof :) Elinruby (talk) 06:15, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oops!

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You've put "Spotted Tail" in "Sioux (ship, 1910)" instead of "Brule Sioux." But no matter ... it's fixable. Thanks for all your work on the Archives materials! (And for maintaining a collaborative attitude.) Djembayz (talk) 20:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, as you can see, I stand corrected myself regarding the location of Seattle ;) Djembayz (talk) 03:30, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Civility Barnstar
Hooray for civility! Here's a barnstar for you. Djembayz (talk) 03:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
File:A pack of deinonychus.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

FunkMonk (talk) 13:11, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


You have been blocked for a duration of 2 days

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You have been blocked from editing Commons for a duration of 2 days for the following reason: Personal attack after warning here..

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The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Request reason: "(enter your reason here) block follows a request for further information and an attempt to comply Elinruby (talk) 08:38, 15 July 2024 (UTC)"[reply]
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Circumstances of this block

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Greetings, Elinruby and administrators, I'm rather disturbed by the events which led up to Elinruby's block and I'd like some of you to help me work through the reasoning here.

  • Elinruby has had an account in good standing since 2011;
  • User:Dronebogus is a relatively new account, with dozens of uploads and an elaborate user page which includes several mentions of "dick", "(child) porn", "nsfw", and "loophole";
  • Dronebogus is currently embroiled in a dispute revolving around off-wiki drama and deletion processes for their uploads;
  • The content and subject matter of Dronebogus' uploads are being described in various terms by participants on COM:AN, and Elinruby has called them out as CSAM;
  • No fewer than 3 administrators reacted swiftly and unanimously to sanction and silence Elinruby after such comments;
  • The block was issued on the grounds of "personal attack".

So has Elinruby actually been blocked based on their description of this uploaded content? What should Elinruby have done differently to avoid attacking Dronebogus in this manner? Because if Elinruby has been blocked for pointing out CSAM in this fashion, you'll need to go ahead and block me as well, because I agree and concur with their comments and descriptions. I cannot see how this is a "personal" matter but a description of someone's contributions, and a serious legal concern for the WMF. Elizium23 (talk) 16:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elizium23: Elinruby made a comment insinuating that Dronebogus collected child porn. Abzeronow told Elinruby that their comment was inappropriate and gave them a formal warning for it. Elinruby then edited their comment to say the exact same thing they were just warned not to do, with slightly different wording. Elinruby come into an already heated conversation, added fuel to the fire with unnecessarily combative language, was told not to, and continued to do so. Ergo, I blocked them to prevent them from continuing to needlessly escalate an already tense and messy thread. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But Dronebogus does collect child porn. Why is that a problematic statement, rather than a problematic activity? Elizium23 (talk) 18:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Elizium23: The policy for reporting CSAM materials on Commons is to email legal-reports@wikimedia.org (there's a large red alert banner that says this when you edit any admin noticeboard page). Please, by all means, send legal an email if you think any of their uploads meet that criteria. If they do, legal will delete the files and likely global ban Dronebogus. If you're referring to the Sanny and Tess illustrations, though, I suspect legal won't do anything. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is an appallingly bad block. The sort of bringing-the-project-into-disrepute block that the Daily Mail was so overjoyed about a few years ago, when they were looking for such things and using them to hang another Wikiporn article from. Great ammunition for the 'Wiki loves porn' claims.
It's made worse by misrepresenting Elinruby's comments so badly. They never made any insinuation "that Dronebogus collected child porn" that I saw. They wrote instead "people who don't see why you can't host your kiddie porn on your own hardware." as a contrast to uploading it here. This isn't an insinuation about anything else that Dronebogus might be hosting or collecting, merely the images that are visible through Special:ListFiles/Dronebogus and that they've seen apropriate to upload here. As to the quality of such content, I'd refer you to Elizium23's eloquent description of it. I can only presume that Elinruby has concerns over the suitability of this content: not some hypothetical content in some unfounded aspersion, but the stuff that's right in front of us now, and who would blame them?
Dronebogus' content is within a whisker of being unacceptable here (at best!) and that is a very and obviously subjective judgement call. I might disagree with Elinruby over our conclusions (but not by much) but they have an absolute right to be upset by this or to see it as unacceptable. They should never be blocked for that view, or even for describing it in the terms they have done.
For Elinruby to make an aspersion hypothetically, "If this is what we can see here, you must be collecting stuff offline that's even worse" would be a bad personal attack and blockable. But they never said that. They commented on the content that Dronebogus has already uploaded here and even if we disagree on their judgement of its acceptability, they are certainly within the bounds of reasonable opinion as to its virtues. They should never be blocked for such a view, even if we disagree.
Personally I find Dronebogus' art to be within a whisker of deletion. If we have an article on en:futunari, then I can just accept the need for one of the images here, maybe more (as I can't consistently turn that into a 'how many?' question). But damn, it's a close thing. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Either Dronebogus is intentionally making it look like he's into children on his user page as a troll to stir up drama or he's into kids. I don't think it's later, but the former isn't really any better and I don't think anyone should be blocked for pointing out obviously pedo or CSAM sounding nonsense like "I’m gonna drive around with a picture of a naked anime child on my bike." That's on @Dronogous: for not having the wherewithal to not put things on his user page that will obviously invite comments. Again though, that seems to be the sole purpose of it and it's totally ridiculous to block someone just for pointing it out. --Adamant1 (talk) 20:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]